UFO Review issue 11.pdf

The Truth arrives at last. It’s here in this issue.

June/July 2005

Number 11

Roswell – The End!

What you’ve not been waiting for and what

you don’t want to hear; Roswell case cracked

at last.

I suppose you could say that UFO Review has a scoop. The man focus of this

issue is an extremely extensive interview with author Nick Redfern about the

story behind his new book , Body Snatchers in the Desert: The Horrible Truth at

the Heart of the Roswell Story in which Nick almost certainly offers the definitive

explanation about what happened at Roswell. It may not be what you want to

hear because I will tell you right now; it doesn’t involve aliens, but as you read

what Nick says, if your reaction is the same as mine was, then you will find

yourself reluctantly coming to the conclusion that he has probably cracked it. It

just seems to make sense. There is a lot to take in and it will be difficult to absorb

in one hit but as you do, you will be struck with a further wave of shock as you

then consider the implications of what he has to say. They are very, very

profound for this subject that we love.

For others there will be a sense of relief that, as they see it, this albatross is

finally removed from around their necks and Ufology can get on with its “life”

unfettered by the distraction of this incident.

I would like to congratulate Nick on what I consider to be a truly excellent piece

of research. My feeling is that this may well come to be regarded as his seminal

work. I also want to thank him publicly for his very generous giving of his time

and his patience with me. We spent not far off five hours talking about this and

he bent over backwards to give me every assistance that he could. He went

further than any author would normally go to publicise a book. And he also gave

me this scoop. While from now on, he is bound to be in great demand for

interviews etc. this interview that you are about to read is the only one he gave

before publication. In return, I had to give my word that I would say nothing. His

publishers had placed a very strict embargo on any pre publication publicity and

the breaking of that promise of silence to Nick could well have resulted in

financial penalties for him.

The essential point of Nick’s case is not new, although it actually may be new to

many of you. The theory first surfaced about fifteen years ago and in fact one

publication in particular got extremely close. But they based their article on what

they had been told, obviously by an informed source, but could not back it up

with documentation or evidence and were still a little off line. It is interesting to

go back and read their piece again. They obviously had contacts. Also close, and

first with it in 1990, was a now much maligned author, but while he got the

overall principle right, he too got the detail wrong. But I wonder who told him?

And others have been there too. It’s been looked at, tossed around, laughed at,

dismissed, and generally considered very unlikely. It will be a little harder to

discard this time though. Nick presents new witness testimony and

documentation and the way he pulls it all together is impressive. What is also

interesting is the manner in which the story came to him. From two different

separate strands, separated by five years.

So the truth has been out there, of sorts, for a while. They have told us. They just

didn’t tell us they were telling us.

There is bound to be controversy caused by Nick’s conclusions and perhaps even

mocking, and it would be naïve to expect otherwise. A lot of people are going to

be effected by this. A lot of people have given their ufological professional lives to

pursuing a particular aspect of Roswell or a particular case and all will be deeply

affected and that should not be under estimated. The controversy will be

welcomed. There are bound to be rough edges to Nick’s story here and there and

possible occasional inaccuracies but it is unlikely they will affect the core of his

account. But Nick would welcome the interest and input of other researchers,

without question. He hopes that people will go out and check up on what he has

written for them selves, and possibly even take the story further. His narrative

also opens up many other potential avenues of research.

If people accept what he has written and fully comprehend the consequences,

then the affects will take time to filter through. The details, although a lot, you

will take on board. It’s the digestion process afterwards where the pain might

come.

Most of you though will be disappointed, but, we cannot hide from the truth. Keep

your chin up, go grab a cup of coffee, and prepare for a fascinating read.

The Roswell Story

Interview with Nick Redfern on May 23 rd and 24 th 2005

SM: Just before I rang you Nick, I got onto Amazon’s site and called the book up

and noticed that they give the game away in the editorial review. I don’t know if

you’ve looked at it?

NR: Yes, I have. It is an editorial review in one sense but what it basically is, is a

combination of the press release and the back cover of the book, which they

always do. It’s sent to Amazon and is meant to go up on the day of release. But if

Amazon put it up, what can they do?

SM: How did you get on this thread, the idea and material for the book?

NR: This goes back to August 1996. What happened was, I did a BBC TV

documentary series that was launched in ’96 called Out Of This World and it

looked at various unsolved mysteries. I did some filming at the Public Record

Office in the UK about the files that were available then. Bare in mind, this was

years before the FOIA and the bulkier files and the stuff that people like Mathew

Williams and Andy Roberts and David Clarke had done, like going down and

finding the Working Party files, there was nothing like that then. Back in ’96 there

were just a few files, there were one or two which amounted to a couple of

hundred pages but this was the first bulky release that had come out.

So I did this programme which was primarily about official files on Rudloe Manor

and the show aired in August ’96 and shortly after it went out, I got contacted by

a guy who said he had some inside information about the British government’s

involvement in the UFO subject and would I be interested in speaking to him? Of

course, when you write books and your name is published in magazines or in

books, you get a lot of emails and calls or the public just write to you at the

publishers. Even to this day, I get probably three or four a month from people

following up on leads or articles or books that I’ve written. So that in itself wasn’t

strange. What was strange was that he asked for a meeting on Euston station. I

replied that I don’t just drive down to Euston station on the word of someone who

says, “Oh, I’ve got something vaguely that I can tell you about.” What it came

down to, and he revealed a little bit more on the phone, was that he worked at

the Home Office and he had some information that dealt with crashed UFOs

stories that were known to the British government.

I went down to meet him and we actually had lunch on the station itself, burgers

and cokes, and what it was about was that he worked at the Home Office on

immigration issues and he showed me evidence that he did hold the position that

he claimed to hold so I knew that he at least was the person he claimed to be.

Then it was a case of evaluating his story. Interestingly, it deals in part with the

Bennewitz story. In roughly 1980/81, around that period, when Bill Moore had co

written with Charles Berlitz The Roswell Incident , he said that there were people

within the U.S. military who were concerned that the truth about the Roswell

story, regardless of what that truth was but the truth that had to be hidden, was

in danger of coming out, purely because Roswell was becoming public property

with the Bill Moore book coming out. The way it was explained to me was that

there was large scale monitoring of UFO researchers in the U.S. who were hot on

the trail of the Roswell story which at the time would have been Moore, Berlitz,

one or two other people and maybe the witnesses even.

It was quite clear from monitoring the phone calls of these people that some of

them had been in touch with opposite numbers in England. I don’t know who

these researchers were but evidently there had been some liaison with British

UFO researchers saying, “Look, this book’s come out; we’ve got new witnesses,

we’re going to break open the story. Can you help in any way? Have you got any

contacts?” Just putting feelers out.

What the Americans did in the light of that was to put out disinformation and fake

documents, things like that, and then that was incorporated into the Bennewitz

story. Bennewitz was in touch with people like Moore and the air force began

putting out these tales about crashed UFOs and alien bases, government/alien

collaboration and underground installations and things like this. Really just to

confuse, this guy said, the whole issue of what happened at Roswell and what the

truth was behind some of these more controversial UFO tales.

Rudloe Manor No.2 site (M. Williams)

He went on to say that the Americans realised to an extent at least, that this

liaison was going on with British counterparts, and the Americans were concerned

about getting involved in feeding disinformation to members of the British general

public, if you like, and asked the British Royal air force, specifically the Provost

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