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Fast Seduction 101 Player Guide

1.1 Introduction

There are TONS of politically correct dating (blech) and romance (blech blech) resources on the Internet.

This is not one of them.

In this no-nonsense guide you will NOT find information on the best chocolate you should give a girl on

Valentine's day. Or how many flowers to give or what kind or color. You will not find long discussions on

where to take her on the first date or how to make candlelight dinners or pick out engagement rings or crap

like that. Instead, what you will find is a flood of information, organized in succinct and clear order on how to

Locate, Approach, Attract, Seduce, and Lay as many women as you can handle with great speed and

efficiency. All kinds of women. Specifically, this guide is geared towards getting and laying HBs (Hot Babes)

although that term is subjective and it really depends on what YOU think is hot. Either way, read this guide

and learn. Your eyes will be opened and your life will change.

Contrary to many people's opinion, this guide isn't about lame gimmicks or tricks, it is about improving

yourself. It is about improving your state of mind, what you believe you can achieve, how far you can go and

how much you can learn. Portions of this guide may offend some readers. I guess sometimes people can't

take the truth if it goes against what society has programmed into their belief system. The useful information

in this guide won't be buried in heaps of annoying psycho babble or filler. The information isn't hidden

between the lines and under some agonizing subtext. It is out in the open, clearly exposed, and organized in

such a way that you can GET the understanding. It is organized to help you learn and take advantage of

your new knowledge quickly.

Some guys out there reading this right now may be thinking But I'm too ugly or stupid or boring or poor or

weak or shy or etc to be able to take advantage of knowledge on how to meet and attract hot babes! Stop

right there. How in the world do you ever expect to succeed with an attitude like that? Thinking that way is a

setup for failure before even giving yourself a chance to try. Any time in the past where things didn't go your

way was NOT the result of a deficiency within yourself or have anything to do your perceived limitations. It

was the insecurities themselves, the simple idea that you believed you could not succeed. You have nothing

to fear but fear itself. Getting rid of that fear is your first step. It is a difficult and trying step for a lot of guys,

but working through this guide will, at minimum, help you achieve that primary goal.

You will son realize that having hot, interesting, amazing women in your life is not about getting lucky.

Luck plays no factor here. You will not read anything in this guide about how much luck it takes to achieve

anything. Rather, everything is in your control. However, to achieve that control and to gain more and more

confidence in your abilities, it takes more than just reading this guide. You have to go out there and do stuff.

You should look at this guide as a roadmap to a pot of gold. You won't get that gold unless you get off your

ass and get in your car and DRIVE. You won't learn anything along the way unless you stop that car often

and take a look around, interact with your environment, affect that environment, then move on back to driving

towards your primary destination.

A lot of the information contained in this guide was or is gleamed mostly from the ASF newsgroup and

miscellaneous associated web sites. You will find references to people and products (i.e. Ross Jeffries'

Speed Seduction material and courseware) which have a strong influence on the postings in that group. I

first ran across ASF in late 1999, while still an AFC trying to find useful information that just could not be

found anywhere else on the Internet. I wasn't looking for bullshit dating advice, I was looking for advice on

why the hell I wasn't attracting tons of women. Sure, I was a kind of introverted (somewhat shy) guy, but I

kept thinking I have a good job, a nice house, a nice car, am funny, smart, great guy, not too bad looking,

and emotionally balanced. So how come I wasn't getting the babes? How come I looked all around and

sometimes see guys who have much less going for them than me yet are walking around with hot,

interesting chicks and I'm lucky to get an occasional date with an average, boring chick? Before running

across ASF, I had remembered reading (and printing out) some of Ross' old Get LAID newsletters but at that

time in my life I was so much of an AFC that I just didn't get the blatant clarity of the information in those

writings. It was like That's just too damn easy and surreal - this is BS. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and

eventually will figure all this out.

What a chump I was. And then I found ASF and it all became clear. All of a sudden, I had an epiphany

and I began to get it. Now all I had to do was go out and actually do what all these guys were talking about.

An AFC first coming across ASF will think This is all just too weird and surreal- how in the world does a guy

get hot babes following these absurd methods? Chicks will get pissed off. I will get slapped. I've seen it

happen all the time on TV or in movies. I will get laughed at. It's all tricks. It doesn't make sense. It's

confusing. I can't remember all this. etc. But somehow I felt there was something more. So, being the geek

that I am, I started archiving all the posts and then one day decided to suck down and archive every post

ever made to ASF in one big database. Then I made it searchable and let other people use it. Then I

decided that I needed wingmen to help me PU (until I was comfortable on my own) and created PAIR . Then

I noticed that a lot of ASF newbies were posting the same damn questions over-and-over and I revamped

the group's FAQ which I make sure is posted regularly. Then, in the middle of 2000 I got caught up with

work and didn't get much chance at all to keep my momentum going. But ASF still drew my attention and,

towards the end of last year, I hooked up with a couple of great wingmen and have been improving my game

dramatically since then.

I present this guide and all it's features (as well as the whole site) as my gift to the world. Specifically, I

want it to reach all those AFCs out there who are just like I was most of my life until recently. I want them to

have the information that will help them succeed with the kinds of women they are interested in and not have

to settle for any less.

On my scale, 1 out of 5 chicks are fuckable before getting to know them and, of the remaining 4

only 1 of them might be fuckable after getting to know them.

Formhandle's comment: Keep in mind that other people's rating systems vary widely. A lot of people

would consider anything above 8.0 a HB. Not that we should rank females in generic categories like this, but

hey, we gotta track our successes somehow. Another thing to keep in mind is that some 8.0+s will have a <

5.0 personality but some 5.0+s will have a 8.0 personality. Some guys also like to differentiate between the

face and body. E.g. She was a 7.5 or 8.5, meaning a 7.5 face and 8.5 body (or is it the other way around?).

Got it? Don't got it? OK: 1 is bad 10 is good. Simple enough?

Also, some guys rate HBs on whether they could be a model, porn star, or stripper in order to determine

the difference between an 8, 9, 9.5. I personally rate looks based on how much they turn my own eyes on

rather than if they appeal to the masses. I'm an artist so I have a different aesthetic taste and prefer girls who

are more natural looking than waify and more vibrant than curvy. For example, although I would fuck Pamela

Anderson given the chance, she would only rate an 8.5-8.7 on my scale.

2 The Basic Rules

2.1 The 3 seconds rule

The 3 seconds rule was coined by Mystery, a PUA and regular poster on ASF. The point of the 3s rule is

to propel you to approach women fast enough to keep your internal voice from talking you out of it and avoid

hesitation. You do not want a woman to see you hesitate. The longer you hesitate, the more insecure and

sappy you appear. Also, hesitation creates an added sense of nervousness to your mental state - a

personality trait you do not want to portray when approaching women.

Even if you can't think of any way to initiate a conversation with a woman, whatever you do, don't break

the 3s rule! Act in 3 seconds as the default rule, even if you have no idea how you will continue. If you don't

have an opener or opening line in mind by the time you're in front of her, at least just say Hi. If you act in 3

seconds, she will notice it, no matter where she just came in from or where you came from or how you

passed by each other. She will see the spontaneity and decisiveness in your approach and it can only work

in your favor. If you wait, hesitate, then decide to approach, you are in a weaker situation. Hesitating will give

your self-doubt a chance to create imaginary bad outcomes and add unneeded insecurity to your approach.

With the 3s rule, you don't need to wait for eye contact or for her to notice you or for an opportunity to

present itself. You simply see something you like and you go right up to it. You are also doing yourself a

favor by following the 3s rule. In three seconds, you have no time to become nervous, self-conscious,

sweaty, shaky - all the obvious signs of an AFC: lacking confidence, quality, power, or assertiveness, a

weakling around women, a pariah to beautiful girls. Even if you start sweating, or getting shaky or stutter

while talking to the woman after following the 3s rule, you weren't that way when you initiated contact. The

first impression is what counts. If that first impression of you is of a confident and spontaneous man, her

feelings for you will be positive from the start, which greatly the minimizes the chance of you turning into a

pile of jelly while talking with her. It sets the pace and helps keep your inner voice at bay, allowing you the

chance to keep up your confidence.

The 3s rule, though, is not absolute - you may simply not notice her when she enters your environment,

or maybe you'll be tied up with something that might in some way stop you from approaching her (real

obstacles, not your imagined ones). The 3 seconds start counting from the moment you have spotted her

and are free to approach. When those two conditions are met, you really don't have the time to think deep

thoughts, or try and figure out whether or not she noticed that you didn't approach her because you were

either too preoccupied, restrained, or simply oblivious - the clock is always ticking, so move it!

vampire2727, ASF : The worst part of not using the 3s rule is when the girl sees you hesitating.

Mike, ASF : When approaching these chicks, I used Mystery's 3 second rule approach (which I rely on

heavily) and tried to pick out something about them to comment on. It could be a book, something they are

wearing, questions about something that they MAY (not necessarily DO) have knowledge on, something we

have in common, whatever.

Formhandle's thoughts on the 3 seconds rule:

There is a reason it's a RULE and not just a recommendation. In just about any situation, you are better

off approaching quickly and without hesitation after seeing the chick rather than waiting around to think about

the perfect opener or hesitating because of self-doubt. Most AFCs just stand or sit around, gazing at the HB

they want to apporach rather than just going up and doing the approach. While they stand or sit there, the

voice in their head goes through every possible rejection scenario and scares the hell out of them. They

cause themselves to get nervous and scared and if they finally do get the nerve to do the approach, they are

walking up to her as a quivering pile of jelly. Waiting also creates time for a cockblock to appear. The longer

you wait, the more time gets created for cockblock scenarios to present themselves.

The rule is not chiseled in stone, though, and some circumstances aren't quite 3s material. You can't just

walk up to a chick and chat her up while she's depositing a check at a bank teller window, for example. Also,

sometimes you are in a room full of HBs and you need time to scan for ones that you actually want to

approach. You obviously can't approach 2 chicks in 3 seconds who are on different ends of a room. But you

also shouldn't stand around for too long if you've seen a chick that you DO want to approach. Just go and do

it. If you can't think of anything, say Hi. Usually, it's also better to have a default opener ready for all

situations if you want to give yourself more confidence and less reason to hesitate. If you're with a wingman,

you may also want to do a Mr. Smooth type approach. If your target is in a group, you may also want to

brush up on group approach techniques .

2.2 Look and feel your best, all the time

If you want to be able to talk to girls everywhere , you have to be primed at all times, in both the physical

and emotional sense. That means looking as good as you can as often as possible. People meet each other

in the strangest and most unexpected places. If you never never know when to look your best, looking your

best at all times is the optimal default. Yes, some women like thick stubble on a man's face, or messy

sweatshirts, or sloppy hair, but most women prefer a neat and clean look. That doesn't mean you have to

shave twice a day and walk around in Armani suits all the time, just that you should take care to be clean,

organized (yet casual) in your appearance, your clothes match, your hair is not a mess, and you're wearing a

good pair of shoes (women like shoes - just accept it). Also, it means excercising regularly, eating healthier,

and getting enough sleep. When you look your best, you feel your best and you need to feel great to properly

do PUs. Feeling great adds to your confidence . When you have confidence, your rapport building skills with

beautiful women will come more naturally.

2.3 Be the Alfa or Dominant male

NightLight9, ASF : The Alpha male - I use this phrase a lot Here is quick run down of what it means to me.

If you watch animal shows on PBS or Discovery Channel, many species have a dominant male who has sex

with all the females in the group, while the other males get none while waiting for him to die or until they are

tough enough to kick his ass and become the alpha male themselves. Many males never get to be an alpha

male (never get laid).

Often it seems like you know guys who are always getting laid and other guys never get laid. You'll even

see women talking to or hanging out or being friends with the average guy, but then sleep with some other

guy (even if he is a jerk, sleeps around and doesn't respect them). The guy who gets laid is playing the role

of the alpha male, while the other guys are submissive males.

I'm saying be the guy who gets laid. That guy is confident that he's going to get laid, because he knows

he's an alpha male. He knows that women and people in general want to be with him so he doesn't shy away

from conversation and meeting new people. He doesn't worry what others think about him when he's doing

his thing. He takes control of a situation with authority. He knows he's fun to be with because he is always

having a good time and therefore he is fun to be with. He knows that if he is in a group of guys and a group

of girls, he will be the one the girls choose to be with, and by having this to be the expected outcome, it is a

self fufilling profecy.

Ok here's, how I did the Alpha or Dominant Male thing. First I created a model of what I thought a

Dominant Male should be. Much the same as the one stated before. Then I used it to change my frame of

reference about myself, ie I stepped into my model of the Dominant Male. I claimed what I knew to be my

genetic right. nd I didn't care who knew it. I didn't make excuses for it either. I just excepted it as the natural

order of things. This is not an outward thing that you do but rather an inward change that radiates outward in

everything you do.

Being the alpha male is all about attitude and projecting the image that you are fun to be with and the

woman should want to be with you. Being the alpha male is self perpetuating. The more you believe you are

the alpha male, the more you become the alpha male.

NightLight9 ?: As for competing with the muscle boys - that's why I changed my model from seeing myself

as the Alpha Male (there can only be one) to a Dominant Male (there can be more than one, but they're all

dominant).

The above quotes discuss being the dominant male in a group of other males. The following quotes will

explain how to expand that attitude into your interatcions with women.

Jason, Clifford's Seduciton newsletter : There's an attitude to take with super HB's (and all women really)

that is pure gold. The thought is that INSTINCTUALLY women KNOW their role. The key word here is

INSTINCTUALLY. What this means is that on an instinctual level women ARE all the same! They get their

juices flowing when they are in the presence of a MAN who is living HIS ROLE. MAN is the dominant one,

NOT woman. And deep down inside women KNOW this. This has NOTHING to do with being an asshole.

This is about being a MAN who is NOT afraid (which doesn't necessarily only have to mean the usual

TARZAN NOT AFRAID! macho stuff, but also not being afraid to be honest, sensitive and caring when the

time is right).

You have to be the MAN who has all the sexual power. And when a woman (no matter how hot) sees and

feels the presence of a man whom she recognizes as the dominant one while SHE isn't, she does what

every woman does - that is SURRENDERS to the more powerful being. And all that acting like she's hot and

knows she's the stuff and all those other head up in the air tricks are just a test and a way to weed out all the

men who are less powerful than her and don't know their role as a MAN.

2.4 Do my look matter?

Do your looks matter? Of course they do, but not nearly as much as you think and not nearly as much as

anyone else thinks. Men fundamentally judge women by their looks: face, hair, eyes, breast, legs, body, etc.

and, more than anything else, it is a woman's looks that turns men on (or turns men off). For a (heterosexual)

man, a woman's looks are what initially trances him out, whereas women tend to be seduced more by words

and actions - unless the man is some kind of male supermodel or superstar in which case women will trance

out on him in the same way a man will trance out on any beautiful woman.

It is only natural that men think the same rules about looks apply to women as they do men. To a certain

extent, yes. A woman, however, places much less importance to how a man looks compared to how he can

make her feel. Looks might better help you get the audition but that's all. Techniques like spoken NLP

patterns, eliciting and mirroring values, Mr. Smooth, kino, etc. are strategies based on direct derivations of

that understanding. Good looks, the right (symmetrical) face, decent body, nice clothes, will provide you an

opportunity to audition for a woman much more easily than bad looks but that's all you get - an audition.

From that point on it still comes down to how you can make her feel. It's your ability to make women feel

warm, happy, and magical deep down inside them that makes them actually want you, not how you look.

That doesn't mean, though, that you shouldn't always try to look and feel your best . Why handicap yourself?

2.5 Nice guys vs. jerks

The debate of nice guys vs. jerks has been raging for quite a long time. The nature of being a nice guy,

however, is commonly misunderstood. It is believed that being polite, considerate, friendly, tender, romantic,

etc. is what being a nice guy is all about and thus those qualities should be avoided, as it is the jerk, the

rude, the inconsiderate, the impolite, the rough guy who always gets the girl while the nice guy is waiting

outside in the pouring rain with flowers in his hand.

It doesn't mean that women prefer rude over polite, inconsiderate over considerate, etc. It all becomes

clear when we look at a very important issue often overlooked when trying to define what makes the jerks

beat the nice guys when it comes to getting the girls. It is sexuality - the jerks are not afraid to show that they

are sexual beings, while the nice guys hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite,

and courteous towards women.

Peta, Clifford's Seduction Newsletter : It dawned on me as it has, that the androgyny is key. Women fall

for bastards because they don't turn off the sexuality. nice guys think women will be terrified of their

sexuality, so they turn it off and all they get is women responding to their androgyny (sending all nice guys to

LJBF-land)

2.6 Good traits

According to some PUAs, women obviously want a man with these most important traits:

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confidence

humour

smile

well groomed or good looks

ability to create an emotional connection or a feeling of romance

In addition to that, being a successful player includes:

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being patient

being persistent

being comfortable just going up and talking to a new woman

finding opportunities in situations where you before did not believe there would be

being sensitive to how she feels or responds and modifying your approach accordingly

knowing how to talk to a woman to build more rapport with her

knowing how to talk to a woman to make her start thinking in romantic directions

Having mastered all of the above, these will add the final touch:

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mirror her physically

notice her trance words, remember and use them

rephrase everything she says and feed it back to her

anchor all good feelings

don't argue with her, be very understanding, deeply understanding - this can help create an

immense rapport

use presuppositions to direct her actions

have and keep good eye contact - also helps to create an immense rapport

touch her

and always start with the cutest girl around

ASF: Remember, chit chatting about clubs and work school is something she can do with anyone, but

someone who can lead her into a state of arousal or at least romantic interest is hard to come by. You have

to set yourself apart from the other guys by minimising the small talk and asking questions which can lead

her into a romantic state.

2.7 It all comes down to satisfaction

ASF: It doesn't matter HOW good she looks she WANTS to cum and YOU can make it happen. You can

make her cum anytime you want to and you know this. Let her know it too by the way you look at her That is

exactly what the 9-10's out there NEED. They get guys who come too son, fawn over and smother her.

Basically they (the 9-10s) don't get regularly or don't ever get what they REALLY NEED AND DESERVE.

Granted it is a little harder work to overcome years of those women's' tiny and non-existent sexual

satisfaction, but YOU are the MAN to deliver it.

2.8 Women want good sex and romance

Don Diebel: Women don't want just sex - they want good sex and romance. Women's desires are much

greater than most men realise. But, unlike men, who are mostly just after sex, women are looking for great

sexual experiences. Women are very discriminating and choosy in picking sexual partners. They are only

interested in having a sexual encounter with a partner that sexually arouses them and or or promises, by his

manner or image or personality, to be good in bed. Women want exciting, provocative, imaginative partners

who will lead them through great sexual experiences. Though their sexual desire may be very high, they will

pass up just any sexual encounter waiting to find the one that promises to be special. But women know that

good sex is hard to find - once they have it, they will not let go easily

So make sure that when you do her, you do her right

2.9 Should you express or contain your sexual desires?

The whole point of seduction is to make the girl want you. really bad So the point of expressing or

containing your own desires is moot. If you know how to make her want you (specific strategies are

discussed within this guide), you might actually be more likely faced with the situation of trying to contain her

sexual desires instead of yours.

If however you are a clueless and horny AFC, the following piece of advice is for you :

Don't rush things sexually with single women. Appear as if you are still deciding whether or not you want

to be involved. The first example in this section of ending a date before she does, is a great way to

accomplish this. Also, if the mood, the time, the place isn't right, or it feels the slightest bit awkward, don't try

kissing her for the first time. If she's interested, the time and place will come. But, by pushing it, you risk

blowing an important event, you risk coming off as being desperate for action and worst of all, you risk

appearing inexperienced and inept. Don't be afraid to wait until the time is right.

A few final words - it takes far less time to become a PUA than to wait until the time is right 'Nuff said Now

have fun with the rest of this guide

Ok, a few more final words - you are a MAN, you DO have sexual desires, no point in trying to deny that.

Which in fact is a good attitude to have I make no excuses for my desires! I am a MAN goddammit! And I

only laugh at the hypocrisy of the world! So if some girl wrinkles her nose at this - you'll just convert her and

she won't know how she could ever have thought differently from you

But on the whole, as the point of seduction is to make the girls finally want to almost rape you, YOUR

sexual desires should never even be a subject of discussion

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